Emergency stop or limit switches can be connected between PLC and X3. How to Convert your AC Tools to DC with a Treadmill Motor. Finally, it is possible to override the ‘no voltage reset’ so the motor restarts automatically when power is reapplied. Click THIS LINK for full contact details. The default jog frequency is zero, so jogging won’t work until a value for C20 is entered. New motors were expensive, and now I needed a new board as well. To program in a new value, press FUNC/DATA and it will save the data and them the display will change to show the next parameter. Typically, in an industrial application, the inverter would be mounted away from casual access, although access to programme or set the controls would not be unusual. I was able to bodge a repair and give it a semblance of life, although low speed running suffered. by Torch » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:36 am, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. I see where new SCR controllers can be bought for under $200. Transwave recommended a TEC unit rated at 0.37Kw at 230V, 50Hz, delta configuration (photo 11). As the mini lathe has a built in ‘back gear’ – giving two speeds in about a 2:1 ratio, I decided that I would only need a single speed drive from the motor to the countershaft. This happily runs from a domestic single-phase supply and outputs 3-phase 200-240V with a rating of 0.4kW or 0.5HP (photo 13). 3-Phase Conversion and Other Alternative Methods of Powering a Mini-Lathe. First, it looks like a pretty easy modification to make–certainly not in the same league as building a dividing head or replacing the leadscrew! The figures in table 1 are actual measured speeds. I set F02 (running/stopping and rotational direction) to 1. The switches are arranged so that FWD and REV are also disconnected, ensuring that the start switch cannot operate when the stop switch is depressed. This means that you can leave most of its settings well alone, and it will still do sensible things, like working out if your motor is likely to overheat. With this I made a pair of basic pulleys. The first task was to make some multi-step pulleys. BEMONOC 775 DC Motor 12V 12000RPM Lathe Press With Miniature Hand Drill Chuck & Bracket High Speed 775 DC Motor For DIY Assembly. Be aware that it is, in some cases, possible to interchange normally closed and normally open switches, but you will have to change the parameters when programming the inverter. 600(w)/374.5(rad/s)= 1.6Nm. My control box uses a three-way switch to connect +24V, via the ‘start’ push switch, to FWD and REV. It took me some time to source a replacement motor, and when I got it I treated it a little more gently. The LED monitor will typically show 1.F_ _  for the ‘function code’ editing option, or another letter if you last edited a parameter from another option. If your motor is rated for 60Hz, take advantage of this and get the widest possible constant torque range. Personally I prefer the gentle speed up and down, noting that motors started gently are less likely to overheat from repeated starts. Nov 7, 2015 - A few years ago I purchased a 1985 vintage JET 12 X 36 BD metal lathe. These are used to connect the inverter to the mains earth, as well as to the frame of the motor, the enclosure and any other exposed metalwork. … For anyone interested in copying this arrangement, which does work surprisingly well, my pulleys were turned from aluminium blanks. This involves moving three short bus bars within the terminal box, following instructions on the motor. This meant learning how to program the inverter and making and wiring up a remote control box. The speed of650 is dependant upon the pulley system you already have on the lathe. This arrangement was only meant as a stop-gap, but to my surprise I found it easy to use and did not miss variable speed – just the lack of a really low speed. This sets the ‘hold function’ and keeps the motor running when the momentary start signal is disconnected from FWD or REV as long as X1 is disconnected from PLC. Want the latest issue of Model Engineer or Model Engineers' Workshop? Photo 7: The poly-v pulley fitted to the motor. The technique is to strip a short section of wire, as long as the tubular section of the crimp (5mm or 8mm). Another wire runs from this side of the stop switch, through a N/O start switch, to the centre terminal of the FWD/REV changeover switch. This is then threaded into the tube and the crimp closed using the notch in the crimp tool marked with the same colour as the connector. I looked at the KB electronics PWM's and I don't see any compatible for a 1.25hp motor at 115v line voltage. Whereas, the frequency of DC voltage becomes zero. To convert the model to a model that is compatible for conversion with Simscape HDL Workflow Advisor: 1. This approach has the advantage of retaining the 2:1 reduction provided by the existing toothed belt drive from the motor to the spindle and the high/low gearbox in the headstock. Other values are 0 to use the up and down arrows on the inverter, and 4 to use the built in potentiometer. I had to rewire my shop to connect it to 230V. To power and control the motor a more sophisticated speed control unit is required. Above this frequency it will output a constant voltage and hence constant power. As it is set up the inverter seems to be programmed to automatically protect the motor from overheating by timing how long it has been running and at what level of power. I set this to the same value as F03. I show how I converted my South Bend lathe from an AC motor over to a DC motor. I botched this third motor and got things, just about, running again. An example signal for the transistor might be 1 (frequency equivalence), could be used to light an indicator when the inverter is running at the selected speed. FREE Shipping by Amazon . This can be done very simply using the built in inverter controls. BEFORE REFURB. There are two grounding terminals, marked ‘G’. The problem with this arrangement is that it is much harder to use such a three-way switch to jog the motor. Eventually, though, I decided that I ought to go the whole hog and fit a three-phase motor with a variable frequency drive. by Torch » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:58 pm, Post Could I use a PWM designed for a 1hp motor on a 1.25hp motor? The connections I have given below may not apply to your inverter, even if it is a similar model, so check everything with the manual before proceeding. These can be used to control a transistor switch or a changeover relay. I have another little mitsubishi 200W motor and MR-J2 control for the X and I am looking for a 400 to 750w motor for the Z. After considerable thought, I decided to change to direct drive to the spindle, and mounting the motor on the back of the lathe bed. I made a pair of pulleys from a piece of 1 1/2” EN1A Pb, the commonly available free cutting mild steel, (photo 7). I was very careful that there were no shorts between any of the phases or to earth, and that the earth connection was securely fixed to the frame of the motor. The output terminals are U, V and W and I connected these, together with earth, using the four-core cable I had attached to the motor. The DC treadmill motor I won on ebay. There are, however, a few other additional functions that can be changed to improve the performance and flexibility of the system with minimal difficulty. Unfettered by experience or education, I assumed that anything I could fit in it, I could turn in it. Please click here. The speed ramped up and down gently over the default six seconds. The inverter is programmed by inputting numbers into various parameters. It is important that this lead provides a secure earth connection, to which the inverter and the machinery are connected. If you have any doubts as to the security and safety of your insulation, I would suggest mounting the inverter inside a suitable enclosure that requires either a key or a screwdriver to open it. After considerable thought, I decided to change to direct drive to the spindle, and mounting the motor on the back of the lathe bed. By programming E48 you may get values other than drive frequency, that may be more useful, but it is not a simple process. Be nice not to have to mess with the belt changes. It is a low power type rated at 27V 50mA. If you just want to check the data in the inverter and avoid editing it by mistake, you can go through the menu 1 function code letters, to menu 2. Use our magazine locator links to find your nearest stockist! However, I would think the KBWT-112 (12 amp rating) should handle a 1.25 hp motor. The inverter display is set to show current consumption, and a separate tachometer shows spindle speed. I saw that a new version, with a bigger, more robust, brushless motor was available, but the new motor won’t fit the old style lathes. Emergency Stop - cuts all power to the motor immediately. I think 650 is too fast for bowls but is fine for smaller things. Both pulleys needed keyways cutting in them so I used my ‘Stan Bray’ slotting tool[1]. If this all sounds long winded, it probably is, but it does allow you to programme a many parameters with only four buttons and three menu levels. This gave me a six-speed drive, or twelve speeds with the 2:1 built in ‘back gear’. [1] Stan Bray, Useful Workshop Tools, Workshop Practice Series No. Photo 13: The inverter specification plate. Don't be confused by the name - it promptly disconnects the motor, ignoring any delay in F08, so it stops fast, instead of ramping the drive down over several seconds. I used this arrangement, together with a homemade pendant (photo 8) for about six months, and found it quite satisfactory, but despite the success of this arrangement, I still felt it was a bit of a jury rig. In particular, the slow speeds needed for such work reduce the ability of the motor’s built in fan to keep it cool. I have never used the really high speeds available on the mini-lathe, so I decided on using equally sized pulleys. The up and down arrows can be used to select the other options 1E_ _, 1C_ _ and so on. The overload specification is 150% for 1 minute, this is handy as it means it’s not the end of the world if you start a cut too deeply, for example. by chucketn » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:05 am, Post A little more effort allows the controls to be located on a remote pendant, or a machine mounted control panel, and for built in stop switches and brake switches to be wired in as well. To complete the conversion, I dismantled my pendant and fitted a more sophisticated set of controls in the lathe’s original control box (photo 10). This arrangement is needed to stop the motor switching on again as soon as I release the stop switch. $99.95 $ 99. F05 (base voltage) can be set to the nominal voltage on the motor plate. Why the option to use a current? The inverter uses a mains supply and generates a high voltage drive to the motor. Smoother, quieter and more low speed torque. may not be sufficient. The transistor is an opto-isolated NPN type with its collector attached to [Y1] and its emitter to [Y1E]. By gently prising off the main cover on the front of the inverter, I was able to slide up and off the ‘main circuit terminal block cover’. As is usual with modern motors this is somewhat smaller than the old Hoover motor. There are other options for the display, but be warned, the manual is very poor in explaining how they work! Of course I will contact them and ask questions but just thought someone might know. I also milled some plates to hold ball races, allowing me to fit a countershaft to fit in place of the lathe’s original motor. This makes a switch to X2 into a 'coast-to stop' signal. The DC motor also offers smoother and quieter operation. I’m sorry to hedge around this article with so many warnings, but here is one more: Before wiring the inverter realise that its live parts are not made inaccessible in the same way as a piece of domestic equipment. The lathe had sat in a damp outside shed for a number of years and was covered in a film of surface rust as well as various parts of it being siezed, so the first thing to do was to strip it down and clean it up. This allows more than one wire to be safely and securely attached to some terminals, and helps prevent stray ‘whiskers’ of wire that could cause a short circuit. These are SIEG C2 and C3 lathes. This arrangement can be used to allow any alternative motor to be used, you just need a matching pulley (or pulleys) on the motor and countershaft. The power terminals should be connected using crimped on slotted-spade connectors, with insulated boots. One of the side effects of this approach was a burnt out motor. My friend has the same model but single speed belt drive. If you have a dual frequency motor (50/60 Hz) set it to 60. I concentrated on getting the inverter, motor and control box working, before fitting everything to the lathe. 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